About this title: 'What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil.' Always provocative, the Friedrich Nietzsche of Beyond Good and Evil (1886) is at once sceptical psychologist and philosopher-seer, passionately unmasking European society with his piercing insights and uncanny prescience. This masterpiece of his maturity considers quintessential Nietzschean topics such as the origins and nature of Judeo-Christian morality; the end of philosophical dogmatism and beginning of perspectivism; the questionable virtues of science and scholarship; liberal democracy, nationalism, and women's ...
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Binding: Trade paperback
Publisher: Vintage Books, New York
Date Published: 1966
Description: Good. No dust jacket. Highlighting/underlining. Cover and pages in good condition. Yellow pages, broken spine. Underlining in some sections. xvii, 256 p. 19 cm. Bibliographical footnotes. read more
Binding: Paperback
Publisher: Vintage
Date Published: 1989-12-17
ISBN-13:9780679724650ISBN:0679724656
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Binding: Paperback
Publisher: Penguin Classics
Date Published: 1990-07-03
ISBN-13:9780140445138ISBN:0140445137
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Binding: S Trade Paperback
Publisher: Penguin USA, E Rutherford, New Jersey, U.S.A.
Date Published: 1990
ISBN-13:9780140445138ISBN:0140445137
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Binding: Paperback
Publisher: Dover Publications
Date Published: 1997
ISBN-13:9780486298689ISBN:048629868X
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Binding: Paperback
Publisher: Penguin USA, New York, New York, U.S.A.
Date Published: 1990
ISBN-13:9780140445138ISBN:0140445137
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"Recently read "The Birth of Tragedy", "The Geneology of Morals" and "Beyond Good and Evil". The first two were not so enjoyable as the third one. "Beyond Good and Evil" translated by Walter Kaufman is well translated and the footnotes are very helpful especially for a non-student of Nietzsche. While reading the passage in section 19 on "Will": Nietzsche has presented 'Will' as a physiological phenomenon; as a biologist it suits my taste to think about 'Will' this way. It makes the stochastic nature of will(ing) tangible. Also it makes inability to execute ones 'Will' a function of ones weakness and not as a quality of 'Will' itself. This makes sense both physiologically and sociologically. Also because it can be understood as physiological it becomes a continuous process rather than a thought that arises out of the mind in a static pre-will being or form of existence; such an existence is improbable. The stochastic and temporal nature of 'Will' also makes it easy to understand why the idea of 'Free Will' has eluded a concrete understanding and confused many.
Nietzsche appears to be against the 'rule of the majority' or Democracy, just like Aristotle. However, I have to reserve my final judgement on it till I have read his other works for it seems as much a possibly premature assessment as the assertion by some that he was an anti-semite; much to the contradiction Nietzsche seems to be all in praise for them and in a very convincing and constructive way.
On section 21: Self-contradictions are trivial limitations of language rather than true contradictions. Often such contradictions or paradoxes are a limitations of our understanding of the way things are and the way they are symbolized in language. The causa sui is also a contradiction in the same sense. What is excellent about this section is that it argues that causality should be understood as a convention set by ourselves. This is the existentialist Nietzsche.
Throughout my reading of Nietzsche I am reminded of one of our own Iqbal who presumably was influenced by Nietzsche. My reading of Iqbal gives me the impression of a Theosoph-er than a philosopher but I do see where he might have connected the critique of religion by Nietzsche to mean a praise for Islam. I have a few constructive ideas of Muslims reading Nietzsche or any other western philosopher for that matter. We, Muslims must understand and accept our constructive relationship with the rest of the world, rather than the opposing relationship of 'us and them'. There is no way we can isolate ourselves from the rest of the world, meaning mankind or environment. This may appear natural and obvious but not so to the Salafists who propose that 'the way' was already all determined and detailed during the life of the prophet of Islam. There are two objections to this idea. One very broad and one slightly narrower. The broad objection comes from the discussion on progress that I have yet to equip myself to be able to discuss. Meaning, I have a feeling that there is a lack of the idea of progress in the Salafist ideology but I cannot furnish a constructive and elegant counter argument for the reason that it is too obvious to a person of this day and age. The second is that Isolating ourselves from the rest of the world is fatalist. It is impossible in view of the expansion of contact and information exchange. There is a way to become part of the whole without losing faith or even identity. And to the contrary any attempt to isolate or insulate ourselves will be pretentious and fake. Any new innovation is going to affect everyone including us some of us positively some of us negatively. This discussion is incomplete without mention of the idea of universality of Knowledge. Knowledge, progress, Science, Mathematics do not belong to some one nation or religion. It developed over the millennia and crossed boundaries of faith and nationality as frequently as language and culture gains influence from a neighboring peoples. The vertical view of transmission of 'truth' as envisioned by orthodoxy is incomplete and lacks the pragmatic acceptability of influence or heritage of pre-existing faith and culture on any new idea. Cautiously so, but I do believe this applied to Islam as well."
"It is definitely a bad sign on my part that I give a one-star rating to one of the great works of Nietzsche. In doing so, I'm only trying to give my honest reaction to the book. 'Beyond Good and Evil' is currently the only work I've read by the famous philosopher, and I've got to admit to being a little baffled as to why it is so popular. Rather than build up particular arguments of philosophy and attempt to convince his reader of its details, Nietzsche seems content to merely gain-say everybody who came before him, and to state his ideas as if they were accepted fact. The book is cut up neatly into (in my addition) 269 short philosophical sketches, with almost no connection from one sketch to the other. Even inside the sketches themselves, Nietzsche jumps rapidly from idea to idea, briefly stating that he is right, that others are wrong, and then jumping to an entirely different topic. The one bright spot in the book is the middle section, when Nietzsche confides himself to single short quotes, many of which are very provocative and interesting. I'm sure that I need to give this philosopher another try. In the meantime, however, all that I can say is that I eagerly picked this book up hoping to learn what Nietzsche was all about... and I left having no idea."
"Well, what can I say? Nietzche's words and verses are often poetic. Some of his original thinking resonates so strongly within me it practically brings tears to my eyes because I feel like it is my personal philosophy. I get what he is saying. I was especially fond of him talking about the herd mentality in this book.
Some of what he says is a jumbled mess. Other stuff seem outdated and a bit prejudiced against the most random people like for example his rants against the English about the most random stuff, not having any natural musical abilities and such. I laughed at times at his views on women and other times grit my teeth. We women love as the animals do according to Nietzche.
You need to look at this work as a whole and take away what you take away. Expect to run through a gamut of emotions and thoughts. Nietzche is cynical, serious, exact, metaphorical...he will keep your brain floating in a good way."
"I used to be a skeptic about Nietzsche's writing. How can you not be a skeptic about history's greatest skeptic? In Beyond Good and Evil, Nietzsche takes away everthing from not only our ordered consciousness, but our sentient-ness as well. Certainly morality has no foundation either. It is all just man's invention of how to think that has no substance or definition. It is all concocted by our own. By the time he is through, there is nothing left of existence, not even Decartes "I think, therefore I am". There was a time when I scoffed at this read. Today, I am far more open to it than ever. The irony of it is that it is the "reality" of coming into an awareness of man's idiocy that gave me more acceptance of a book that trumpets the accuracy of knowing nothing.
This book basically goes nowhere in the philosophical realm of thinking. It even takes away what we conceive as the order of the universe. By the time Nietzsche is finished, not only are human thoughts and beliefs null and void, everything else is undefined as well.
The futility of this order of thinking is when you negate everything, there's nothing left to say and there's no argument left to present against it. It's the safest place to be in an argument.
Not only that, there isn't anything left of meaning either.
Emo.
I still loved this book because you can't argue with it. That is where all philosophy wants to lead; to that zone where every argument is valid and you have exhausted all possibility of dispute."
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